# Loops Guide

**URL:** https://forum.eternagame.org/t/loops-guide/2036
**Category:** Guides and Tutorials
**Created:** [January 12, 2011, 3:13am UTC](https://forum.eternagame.org/t/loops-guide/2036 "2011-01-12T03:13:00Z")
**Posts on this page:** 9
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### Author: ![Ding](https://forum.eternagame.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Ding](https://forum.eternagame.org/u/Ding)
#### Post date: [April 14, 2011, 9:20pm UTC](https://forum.eternagame.org/t/loops-guide/2036/30 "2011-04-14T21:20:00Z")

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I think that part of the importance of the identity of the single nucleotide in the bulge in the example boganis was originally using actually has to do with dangling energies in the structure (a 2-2 loop) that would form if one of the pairs to the side of the bulge didn’t form. The need is to make it more energetically favorable to form the single-nucleotide bulge than the 2-2 loop 🙂

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### Author: ![dburd48778](https://forum.eternagame.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/db5fbb/32.png) [@dburd48778](https://forum.eternagame.org/u/dburd48778)
#### Post date: [September 9, 2011, 10:11am UTC](https://forum.eternagame.org/t/loops-guide/2036/31 "2011-09-09T10:11:00Z")

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Hello, I’m new to this. Why doesn’t this solution or whatever work for [http://eterna.cmu.edu/puzzle/Challeng…](http://eterna.cmu.edu/puzzle/Challenge/307322)

[![](https://d2he8ud106d9gn.cloudfront.net/original/2X/0/03f120bab67e375b90f1176a312d382bcaf72871.jpeg)](https://s3.amazonaws.com/satisfaction-production/s3_images/576316/Capturerna.JPG)

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### Author: ![macclark52](https://forum.eternagame.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@macclark52](https://forum.eternagame.org/u/macclark52)
#### Post date: [July 16, 2012, 1:39am UTC](https://forum.eternagame.org/t/loops-guide/2036/33 "2012-07-16T01:39:00Z")

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Your guide was pointed out to me by somebody – probably Eli – and I found it VERY helpful! Thanks so much for putting it together.  
An observation: When there is a loop between two stacks, it seems to like the guanines placed on the 3’ side of the stack – that is, in the direction of increasing nucleotide numbers.

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### Author: ![nguyenlamlll](https://forum.eternagame.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/8e8cbc/32.png) [@nguyenlamlll](https://forum.eternagame.org/u/nguyenlamlll)
#### Post date: [September 1, 2012, 3:31pm UTC](https://forum.eternagame.org/t/loops-guide/2036/34 "2012-09-01T15:31:00Z")

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it’s helpful to me , tks u very much

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### Author: ![hoglahoo](https://forum.eternagame.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/9d8465/32.png) [@hoglahoo](https://forum.eternagame.org/u/hoglahoo)
#### Post date: [September 1, 2012, 10:18pm UTC](https://forum.eternagame.org/t/loops-guide/2036/36 "2012-09-01T22:18:00Z")

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Your sequence isn’t strong enough to hold that shape together. Experiment with the 5 bases you have to work with

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### Author: ![M.L.Smith](https://forum.eternagame.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/b5a626/32.png) [@M.L.Smith](https://forum.eternagame.org/u/M.L.Smith)
#### Post date: [December 13, 2012, 9:43pm UTC](https://forum.eternagame.org/t/loops-guide/2036/37 "2012-12-13T21:43:00Z")

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This has helped me spend less time on loops.

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### Author: ![saku](https://forum.eternagame.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/90db22/32.png) [@saku](https://forum.eternagame.org/u/saku)
#### Post date: [May 29, 2013, 9:01pm UTC](https://forum.eternagame.org/t/loops-guide/2036/40 "2013-05-29T21:01:00Z")

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That looks awesome!

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### Author: ![saku](https://forum.eternagame.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/90db22/32.png) [@saku](https://forum.eternagame.org/u/saku)
#### Post date: [May 29, 2013, 9:01pm UTC](https://forum.eternagame.org/t/loops-guide/2036/41 "2013-05-29T21:01:00Z")

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Good strategy i tried it and it works!

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### Author: ![DancingGeek](https://forum.eternagame.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/58956e/32.png) [@DancingGeek](https://forum.eternagame.org/u/DancingGeek)
#### Post date: [January 31, 2014, 1:32pm UTC](https://forum.eternagame.org/t/loops-guide/2036/43 "2014-01-31T13:32:00Z")

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The links above didn’t work for me (got a page of comments, but no puzzle) - tweaked the URLs to get them to work:

1. The 1-1 Loop  
[http://eterna.cmu.edu/game/puzzle/305…](http://eterna.cmu.edu/game/puzzle/305041/)

2. The Corner Loop  
[http://eterna.cmu.edu/game/puzzle/306…](http://eterna.cmu.edu/game/puzzle/306520/)

3. The 2-2 Loop  
[http://eterna.cmu.edu/game/puzzle/307…](http://eterna.cmu.edu/game/puzzle/307065/)  
[http://eterna.cmu.edu/game/puzzle/305…](http://eterna.cmu.edu/game/puzzle/305309/)

4. The BIG Loop  
[http://eterna.cmu.edu/game/puzzle/307…](http://eterna.cmu.edu/game/puzzle/307188/)  
[http://eterna.cmu.edu/game/puzzle/307…](http://eterna.cmu.edu/game/puzzle/307322/)

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