# New 3D structure prediction servers
**URL:** https://forum.eternagame.org/t/new-3d-structure-prediction-servers/4477
**Category:** General Science Discussion
**Tags:** tertiary, algorithm
**Created:** [February 13, 2023, 11:36pm UTC](https://forum.eternagame.org/t/new-3d-structure-prediction-servers/4477 "2023-02-13T23:36:17Z")
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### Author:  [@DigitalEmbrace](https://forum.eternagame.org/u/DigitalEmbrace)
#### Post date: [February 13, 2023, 11:36pm UTC](https://forum.eternagame.org/t/new-3d-structure-prediction-servers/4477/1 "2023-02-13T23:36:17Z")
Rhiju gave me the URL of two of the best new 3D prediction algorithms released recently. These perform better than RNAComposer. (Edit: Not exactly correct. See Rhiju’s note below.)
The first is RhoFold, which uses machine learning despite the dearth of verified 3D structures: [https://proj.cse.cuhk.edu.hk/aihlab/rhofold/](https://proj.cse.cuhk.edu.hk/aihlab/rhofold/)
The second was the best computed prediction at CASP15 for RNA: [https://yanglab.nankai.edu.cn/trRosettaRNA/](https://yanglab.nankai.edu.cn/trRosettaRNA/)
I tried out RhoFold. It requires the sequence in FASTA format. I’ve never created a FASTA file so I used the one provided on the website. And I used the pre-generated MSA file as a quick test to see how this works.
After clicking Submit, I was taken to a screen with this text:
The area below was blank. After two minutes, the model appeared
along with the link to download the PDB file.
Apparently generating the MSA file takes a long time. I’ll try that some other day.
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### Author:  [@rhiju](https://forum.eternagame.org/u/rhiju)
#### Post date: [February 14, 2023, 2:41am UTC](https://forum.eternagame.org/t/new-3d-structure-prediction-servers/4477/2 "2023-02-14T02:41:40Z")
Really quick clarification – RNA composer, when wielded by humans, actually does better than these servers in the recent CASP15 trials.
They are the “RNAPOLIS” models, led by Marta Szachniuk’s group, in the rankings here:
[https://predictioncenter.org/casp15/zscores\_RNA.cgi](https://predictioncenter.org/casp15/zscores_RNA.cgi)
For more info on current top approaches to RNA 3D modeling, you can find presentations here:
> **[CASP](https://www.youtube.com/@CASP-Prediction-Center/videos)**
>
> Share your videos with friends, family, and the world
including mine on the CASP RNA assessment!
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### Author:  [@JR1](https://forum.eternagame.org/u/JR1)
#### Post date: [February 14, 2023, 2:45pm UTC](https://forum.eternagame.org/t/new-3d-structure-prediction-servers/4477/3 "2023-02-14T14:45:17Z")
The two issues I had when playing around in 3-D servers were the two you mentioned , time of calculation and file format. RNAComposer fits nicely into Eterna given our resources and ported into Chimera gives a 3-D view you can play around with.
What I feel could be useful in Eterna is a API from Eterna that spits out a 2-dimensional map similar to the the mini-PTC map (below) showing all the single NT interactions, distances, etc.
The computer industry is currently pivoting towards the 5th digital dimension , the spatial dimension, so slicing the 5 dimensions into 2 and 3 for easier data analysis and interpretation I would think would interest the academic world.
