Freywa is posting solutions to players puzzle can you remove his post?

I don’t care. wasting your time explaning your point of view. cill pill time Freywa post were removed from my puzzle thank you Jeehyung Lee

You think too much of yourself. I’m not explaining it to you but to all the others reading that actually care and want to understand.

lol, yep, reading the descriptions has never been a stregnth. Now, on to the discussion. First off, I don’t particularly care if player’s post solutions on my puzzles. Now, if they do, that just makes me angry, and when I get angry, I tend to go down my list of potential puzzles to post, and I choose one that isn’t likely to be solved without explicit instructions on how to do so.

Now, the main problem I have, is that my puzzles are so difficult, players are more likely after hour number 10 to choose the easy path, by looking at a puzzle solution. This means, that if I wanted to see many alternate solutions, I get stuck with one solution. Of course, for the puzzles that have only one solution, Drake is the only one to solve them so far…

btw, I am meaning to send you your solutions drake, but I usually get side tracked by something, or my connection goes down, or I get side treacked by my connection going down. It can get complicated. For the challenge puzzles, I already know what you want to see, and I can usually say with good confidence that many have “unique sections” where a GC pair is required or some nucleotide in a bulge is needed, but solutions can become varied with pair placements. Now, if you want to see GU’s, I have given up on placing as many as possible, because it really doesn’t do me any good for any aspect of the game, as the last thing that was useful for were the GU challenges, which are no longer around.

Now, I do agree with Drake that all players who have solved a puzzle should have access to other solutions, or at least the bot solutions, or at least the creator’s solutions, however, if players have to “forfeit” points to look at a solution, then what is the point for them to even try a puzzle in the first place, as I am just going to get a bunch of forfeit points, and 0 new solutions, that helps me in no way.

Finally, I do agree with Starry that players posting solutions is not a good thing for a few reasons.

  1. It deters players from building complex puzzles, which can take long amounts of time to build, perfect, and publish. Who does this hurt, ME. What am I supposed to do without complex puzzles to solve. In fact, I am currently having to go through my old puzzles, looking for solutions that players are not likely to give me because they will never try.

  2. It is bad sportsmanship to post the solution for everyone to see, because this is a game, and making the solution available for everyone makes this no longer a game. What’s the point of making a puzzle worth 100 points if anyone can solve it.

3, How am I ever supposed to reach rank number 1 if players can just solve my puzzles whenever they want :wink:

These are just my thoughts on the subject. To agree or disagree, is your choice :slight_smile:

Thanks B, you read as much as i chat :stuck_out_tongue:

Anyway, if you read my suggestion above it implies you’d be the number one player already. And there would not even be any going near you. The incentive to forfeit is to understand so you don’t have to do it more than once for any problem, and you might be able to solve puzzles that a lot of other people chose to forfeit and are hence worth quite a lot of points. As a player, you forfeit specific puzzles to learn their tricks. As a puzzle maker, you try to make puzzles people have to forfeit because they can’t figure it out. Do you really think there would be no solutions and everyone would leave? If you do, is it really worth having all those people if they don’t do nothing in the first place?

You know, the reason i sometimes hate talking to you is because it feels like you have an insight into the game that i don’t, that you can somehow memorize any and all sequence energies for any structure under 20 nts. Well, i can’t. To be able to solve the puzzles i need to learn the rules, and to do that i need examples. Some of these are hard to come by and even harder to iterate. And i would gladly give 5k points to you to not have to iterate through every combination of a 5-5 loop to find the one that will form the 4-in-a-row zigzag. I’d give you those points because you found it not me. I could have, but i wanted to save the time and nothing was to be gained from the excercise, i’m not likely to remember the entire sequence but i’m very likely to remember where i found it.

But all in all i do agree with you that solutions should not be there for everyone to see. The difference between you and me is that given the two options i still find it much much more preferable and fair than any kind of restriction of expression. People lose interest in hard puzzles anyway, regardless of whether there’s an easy way out or not. If there is, they might actually be interested enough after 10 hours to learn from it. You’re denying this chance based on the assumption that it cannot exist. I’m trying to prove to you that it can.

I didn’t come here to debate whether it’s the right thing to do to post solutions in the comments, it is not. I came here to find a way to be able to see all the solutions to at least my own puzzles, but preferably any that i find more interesting to look at than to solve. There won’t be many. But there would be at least one by now. This way, i just browsed through Eli’s guides for the right zigzag solution. The thing everyone so eagerly promotes as it was any different than providing the solutions. Is it harder to read? Or harder to find? For whom?

Oh and as for the GUs Brourd don’t worry about that unless it’s something special. Like 29 out of 30 pairs. Do you really not see anything in that? I wish i could have done 30. :stuck_out_tongue:

It is bad form to post solutions to other players puzzles.
No matter why.

I suggest that Eterna introduce a list similar to the list of players completing the puzzle in the GU-challenges in the olden days. That way people that have completed the puzzles can be identified. If someone is desperate for a puzzle solution, they can contact some of the solvers and beg for whole or parts of a solution.

Why would I want to get a complete solution?
I wouldn’t.
That would be to claim I am a better puzzle solver than I really am, if I were to just follow a recipe, and as starryjess and joshua point to, it makes it impossible to determine the actual number of players solving a given puzzle.

It would be like learning the right moves for solving Rubik’s cube without understanding the reasoning behind the moves :slight_smile:

man dont have time to read these your wasting a lot of time on a problem that as solved 8 days a go. please go make your own post on satisfaction so i dont get spammed by your justification. for sucking the fun out of the pozzle

Maybe you should have considered that when you went to a public forum to complain.

It’s bad form to irnore what people say and just focus on what you want to say. No matter why.

You’re all stuck in your loops because i dared to stand up for something you all don’t like simply because i see something in it that you don’t. Discussion over.

who cares your taking this too serious. I hope you find someone to talk to get out all your misplaced anger. its a game,
not the answers to life or revolution. your not standing up for something your stepping on other people’s fun. If someone post the solutions of your puzzle and you don’t like it just post a thread on saturation or ask an Etrna employee and they will happily remove it,

Not tactless lol blunt and dyslexic

I’m sorry Josh, i did indeed want to upset you for writing here and ruining my fun. You should have sent an e-mail or a message or at least make a post without names. I have full confidence in that anyone who cares enough to try to understand my opinion will not feel their time wasted. I’m just sad that’s not you.

can you rite some more so i can under stand .

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